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Old 07-09-2018, 07:37 AM
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Do you have children?

How many?

Why?

What would you do to keep your children alive?

Would you die for your children?

Would you kill for your children? And when would you kill and who and why would you kill them to save your child?

Please discuss and write. I'd love to hear and know that you all have ideas even if you dont have children ,you could pretend that you do have children and write about what you would do if you had to save them from ______________________ death ....

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Old 07-09-2018, 03:37 PM
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Beesauce this is an extra sensitive/specialist subject.
what made you bring this up?
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Beesauce this is an extra sensitive subject.
why did you bring this up?

Intellectual conversations are always sensitive. Let me rephrase the writing exercise and community game questionnaire:

Let's pretend you have been offered a prestigious well payed profession and your children would be well taken care of and promised all the amenities of the national dream of your country, but what if you signed up and found out the profession was murdering other children in other countries, not your own.

Would you take the job to feed and keep your children safe from the same fate?

Would you kill other peoples children so your children could live with all the greatest promises and the greatest promise of all: they won't be bombed like the kids in the other country?

Please pretend you have children and write what you were given a choice of extreme wealth and safety at the end of a strangers burning bloody death

Please discuss. this is intellectual property and survey questionnaire of great import as a community, you are allowed to discuss the hardest problems, doesn't anyone have an opinion on imagining and discussing the most difficult and in your face problem?
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:12 PM
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3 children.

Yes, I would kill other people’s children to protect my own.

Yes, I do care about other children in the world.

Were you asked to do something that destroyed your soul? Did you do it?
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:27 PM
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Would you question the reason behind why the other children had to die? Or would the appeal of money and safety be enticing enough to accept your role as child killer? Don't ask questions right?

What if you discovered that there was no reason for the killing, that the victims were peaceful, and that you were simply working for a serial killer who was dressed as a high-ranking official? Would you stay put and keep pushing the buttons that kill innocent victims born in the wrong country or neighborhood?

When does participation in killing become a comfortable occupation? I'd love to pick your writer imaginations on what it might be like to be a murderer working for a mass murderer, it's fascinating psychological pretending here --

How would you feel every night going home knowing when you push a button you were burning babies and not being able to tell your child what you do for a living from the safety behind the lie that bombing others is for safety and not for any other reason?

What would you do or how would you feel if your child found out what you did to give them the national dream of your country? Would they thank you or would they think you were heartless?

How would you explain your actions when your child grows into an adult and discovered what you really participated in for a living?
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
3 children.

Yes, I would kill other people’s children to protect my own.

Yes, I do care about other children in the world.

Were you asked to do something that destroyed your soul? Did you do it?
Could there be another way around this?
It is radical thinking one has to resort to that.
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Could there be another way around this?

It is radical thinking one has to resort to that.


Unfortunately dear you missed my point. It was a point of concern for beesauce, and the question at the end that mattered most. The rest was benign blathering. I sometimes throw out some red meat in order to get a target to respond with something personal. Not because I’m trying to “pin” them, but because I really care about their well-being.

I want to make sure beesauce is playing with fiction here. Otherwise, she needs a small intervention. Maybe just a hug. Maybe more than that.
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No one can say for sure how they would react in extreme circumstances, regardless of feelings, empathy and imagination.

And I think there's a point at which hypothetical scenarios become so convoluted, and there are so many variables, they're just not very interesting.

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No one can say for sure how they would react in extreme circumstances, regardless of feelings, empathy and imagination.

And I think there's a point at which hypothetical scenarios become so convoluted, and there are so many variables, they're just not very interesting.


For sure. Sometimes people are crazy, and sometimes they can be pulled back. Beesauce is a kooky bird. Random and sporadic. Reminds me of when I was on drugs. I’m not saying she is, or doesn’t have a reason to be. There are lots of reasons.

Sometimes writers are acting out a character in order to get to the bottom of something. Sometimes they are just trolling.

But sometimes they need a little bump, just a little one, to set them back on the path.

Of course, there’s always the bat-shit crazy ones who can only help themselves, or won’t accept help from anyone or anything.
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Originally Posted by E. Zamora View Post
No one can say for sure how they would react in extreme circumstances, regardless of feelings, empathy and imagination.

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I find this to be largely untrue, especially if you have been in these situations before. I know of exceptions to what I am saying, but if you've been in even several "Oh shit, I might die" situations you pretty much can gauge how yourself, or people who've been through it with you will react.
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I find this to be largely untrue, especially if you have been in these situations before. I know of exceptions to what I am saying, but if you've been in even several "Oh shit, I might die" situations you pretty much can gauge how yourself, or people who've been through it with you will react.


True, but that is maybe .001% of the population—a tiny fraction. Those spots are reserved for the likes of Ghandi, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Dostoevsky, Schindler, Solzhenitsyn, Krishnamurti, etc, which are an even tinier sub-set of contenders that achieve success.

To imagine you are as great is probably vain—but it could happen.

Nothing wrong with reaching for the stars.
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No one can say for sure how they would react in extreme circumstances, regardless of feelings, empathy and imagination.

And I think there's a point at which hypothetical scenarios become so convoluted, and there are so many variables, they're just not very interesting.
I think it is best the mind reconstruct another model of thinking to avoid getting to this at the first place. How to avoid not falling into these circumstances.
It is not about what could be it is about how to avoid it. It makes sense.
Working backwords in other words in order to bring another better easier interpretation
to could be ultimately detrimental to humans.
Turning the situation on its head is what I mean.
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I find this to be largely untrue, especially if you have been in these situations before. I know of exceptions to what I am saying, but if you've been in even several "Oh shit, I might die" situations you pretty much can gauge how yourself, or people who've been through it with you will react.
Okay, but I said know "for sure." That's different than how we think we might act or probably act.

And while I would generally agree with you, this isn't a running into a burning building kind of thing, especially if you go beyond the OP. It gets pretty outlandish. I haven't and don't know anyone who has been in similar situations.

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Actually, by extension, all Americans are in some or all of the situations presented in post #5, by proxy. Think about it.
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I find this to be largely untrue, especially if you have been in these situations before. I know of exceptions to what I am saying, but if you've been in even several "Oh shit, I might die" situations you pretty much can gauge how yourself, or people who've been through it with you will react.



Originally Posted by brianpatrick True, but that is maybe .001% of the population—a tiny fraction. Those spots are reserved for the likes of Ghandi, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Dostoevsky, Schindler, Solzhenitsyn, Krishnamurti, etc, which are an even tinier sub-set of contenders that achieve success.

To imagine you are as great is probably vain—but it could happen.

Nothing wrong with reaching for the stars.

I don't know how you get from my post to this.
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I find this to be largely untrue, especially if you have been in these situations before. I know of exceptions to what I am saying, but if you've been in even several "Oh shit, I might die" situations you pretty much can gauge how yourself, or people who've been through it with you will react.






I don't know how you get from my post to this.


I might be crazy, dunno.
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That, or I’m just smarter than you...
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You took that I.Q. test, didn't you?
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You took that I.Q. test, didn't you?

Naw, empirical evidence only. I’m okay with that.
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