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Old 08-05-2018, 08:05 AM
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Old 08-05-2018, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
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You have gone all French brian. What is going on?? haha
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Old 08-05-2018, 08:40 AM
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You have gone all French brian. What is going on?? haha


Auto-correct on my phone defaults to that spelling
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Old 08-05-2018, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
Auto-correct on my phone defaults to that spelling
Does it now? auto correct will have you write French before you know it.
It is that time of the season.
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Old 08-05-2018, 01:57 PM
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You should have to pass a test some kind of test if you want to identify as a woman. If your balls have been removed, that's an automatic, but there could be other criteria if you still have them; such as if you interpret feelings differently and how long it takes you to get ready in the morning etc. etc. If you pass successfully, you get a card with a magnetic reader that allows access to women's bathrooms. Problem solved.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by E. Zamora View Post
You should have to pass a test some kind of test if you want to identify as a woman. If your balls have been removed, that's an automatic, but there could be other criteria if you still have them; such as if you interpret feelings differently and how long it takes you to get ready in the morning etc. etc. If you pass successfully, you get a card with a magnetic reader that allows access to women's bathrooms. Problem solved.


The problem would be: who would administer the test? Should we make a panel with Whoopi and Joy to hash it out? And maybe we should include an ice princess like Megan Kelly. And someone hot like Tomi Lahren just to make it interesting TV.

There could be guest judges like Michelle Obama and Miley Cyrus. Oh, and lets not forget Stormy Daniels.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:30 PM
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If you're Tom and you want me to call Tonya, that's an easy switch. I don't really give a fuck; it's your business card. But when you want me to reinvent the language to fit your whim, that's the part where I tell you to fuck off. I'm 70 years old and I'm not gonna memorize a whole new set of pronouns (xhe, xim, Xiv, chu, niv, tau) to suit anyone's mood. I'll call you he or she, but only one of those two things. If you're predicament gets any weirder than that, then you're just gonna have to deal with it.
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
The problem would be: who would administer the test? Should we make a panel with Whoopi and Joy to hash it out? And maybe we should include an ice princess like Megan Kelly. And someone hot like Tomi Lahren just to make it interesting TV.

There could be guest judges like Michelle Obama and Miley Cyrus. Oh, and lets not forget Stormy Daniels.
The problem here is that you think I'm joking.

The test would be developed by average citizens such as you and I. What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by E. Zamora View Post
The problem here is that you think I'm joking.



The test would be developed by average citizens such as you and I. What could possibly go wrong?


Well, the founding fathers, in their wisdom, knew that democracy was a bad idea. Even before statistics it was clear that more than half the population had IQs below 100many of them well below. Would there be a standard for determining who was eligible to help make the test?
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Old 08-05-2018, 10:06 PM
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Once you bring the founding fathers into it, you've lost the argument. They just got lucky and weren't hanged.

You simply have a test to determine who is qualified to administer the test. You're over thinking again.
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Old 08-05-2018, 10:15 PM
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um, if we take that to its natural conclusion - those who identify as a women would be able to identify those who identify as a women surely, I mean it would be intuitive to them ... shrugs

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It's not complicated. If you want to be a woman you have to give up the bollocks. You can't have both.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingtart View Post
It's not complicated. If you want to be a woman you have to give up the bollocks. You can't have both.
... hes right you know boys, stands to reason

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Old 08-06-2018, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by anna View Post
um, if we take that to its natural conclusion - those who identify as a women would be able to identify those who identify as a women surely, I mean it would be intuitive to them ... shrugs


Thats why I suggested Whoopi and Joy. Surely they identify as women.
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Old 08-06-2018, 07:18 AM
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I don't think the answers are that easy. There are likely a lot of people who are transitioning, they're taking the drugs, they're living as women; their genitals have atrophied and they pose no threat, whether or not they've had their balls removed etc. Should they have to go to a men's restroom? Think there's any risk of violence with that?

I've talked in some detail about this with my wife and daughters. They agree that there will be a few creeps who take advantage of the situation, but they also recognize that someone who is determined to assault women is going to do it regardless; so they're at least tentatively OK with some of the new bathroom situations based on empathy for legitimate cases.

So if the majority of people who are transitioning are harmless, do you react based on the outliers? I honestly don't know. But I don't think it's as simple as balls or no balls.

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Originally Posted by anna View Post
... hes right you know boys, stands to reason





I think hes a girl. The avatar is confusing, I know, but a girl... yes, a girl.
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:11 PM
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These days it's hard to tell. But last time I checked there were no bollocks so I like to self identify as female.

@E.Zamora I don't care where these 'women' go to change or do the toilet. Maybe they should have their own separate changing rooms. All I know is, while they still have their meat and two veg they are definitely not women, and sadly women (the ones with vaginas and ovaries) are still vulnerable to sexual violence so society's number one priority is to protect them at all costs.
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Tart, d'you fancy a day out cruising men's urinals?

We could loiter by the pee trough - airily explaining that it's fine to watch because we feel like men on the inside...
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Sounds like a plan.
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Tart, d'you fancy a day out cruising men's urinals?

We could loiter by the pee trough - airily explaining that it's fine to watch because we feel like men on the inside...


A friend of mine lives in Berlin and says its not uncommon for gay men in the seedier parts of town to masturbate while watching guys pee. So, youd have some competition.
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
A friend of mine lives in Berlin and says its not uncommon for gay men in the seedier parts of town to masturbate while watching guys pee. So, youd have some competition.
That says a lot about Berlin then innit never mind gay people.
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That says a lot about Berlin then innit never mind gay people.


Not sure. I just figured all Europeans were more relaxed about sex. Most Americans are fairly uptight.
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Originally Posted by flyingtart View Post
thanks for this tart, nice to laugh out loud to the tinnitus of an empty house, thanks button not functioning atm.

@bp, oops, thankie, no hurt intended for tart then, oh and I just meant that those who identify as a women (the womb-less variety) would intuitively sense .. oh never mind ... ... also there is a huge ethical conundrum that nobody has mentioned - those who identify as a man (born without the tackle) should they refrain from entering the female changing rooms .. and surely if you really did identify as a women in a mans changing room (womb-less variety) youd take great pleasure in looking all those male torsos, their arms and vitality ... coyly averting your eyes to their manhood ...

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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
The problem would be: who would administer the test? Should we make a panel with Whoopi and Joy to hash it out? And maybe we should include an ice princess like Megan Kelly. And someone hot like Tomi Lahren just to make it interesting TV.

There could be guest judges like Michelle Obama and Miley Cyrus. Oh, and let’s not forget Stormy Daniels.
... reckon it’s probably all found in the minutiae of the eye movement, talking bollocks probable but men’s chests and arms are bewitching ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9znA_dwjHw

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With the dominant "social media such as Facebook, Apple, Google, and Spotify banning Alex Jones and others, the social media Overton Window is shifting sharply left.
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Originally Posted by Mohican View Post
With the dominant "social media such as Facebook, Apple, Google, and Spotify banning Alex Jones and others, the social media Overton Window is shifting sharply left.

Agreed. It's easy to dismiss Alex Jones as off-kilter, subversive, or brash, but no more than people who see crop circles in Indiana. It's absurd what's going on with media right now. First, you make me defend Glen Beck, then you make me defend Alex Jones. Sure, the man's a loose canon, but that's not the point. Short of threatening to kill someone or calling for violence--which the left is doing far more than the right--let the man say whatever he wants. And if anyone finds it offensive, they don't have to watch it. When you have media elites picking and choosing what people can say, it's starting to look a lot more like 1984.
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