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Old 08-10-2015, 06:34 PM
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Is the adult content forum still being used? Do rape scenes belong there instead of members only?

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Great question. There are so many rules on this site that I struggled with this question. I reread the rules and still couldn't figure it out, so I went with members only. The adults only forum was a joke.

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It depends entirely on the nature of the scene.
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I've posted a story in "members only" that included a rape scene. There was no question about what was happening, but it was not sexually explicit.

Otherwise, I tend ere on the side that people here are mature enough to handle something that's potentially controversial or difficult.

And you know what they say, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
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Great question. There are so many rules on this site that I struggled with this question. I reread the rules and still couldn't figure it out, so I went with members only. The adults only forum was a joke.

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Yeah -- I've only read one decent story in the adults only section -- and I wrote it.

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Yeah -- I've only read one decent story in the adults only section -- and I wrote it.

Bump it up to members only!

Let's have a look.
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I can't seem to get into the adult section.
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I only go to the adult content forum when I want a laugh. A lot of it is really, really bad.
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Old 08-11-2015, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
Bump it up to members only!

Let's have a look.
Maybe I will. I guess I'd have to put some kind of disclaimer on it. The thing is, it's not really typical of my stuff, but it might be interesting to see how a new group of people react to it. On the other hand, I haven't been writing critiques lately -- just can't get into it -- which is why I haven't been posting anything.
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I only go to the adult content forum when I want a laugh. A lot of it is really, really bad.
Heh. You read my story there and gave it a positive review. One of the only things I've seen your critique. But now I know why you were reading stories in the adult content section.

It also prompted quite the skirmish among some of the old members, including you. I just skimmed through the comments. Pretty funny.
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The Snake Farm

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If they are in any way descriptive then yes they should be in the AC.

If they are not, and the story is being prepared for submission somewhere (and hence in the Members Only) then it is allowed though a disclaimer should be at the top of the post.
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... it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
I've never heard that but even if I had, it would have made me wrinkle my eyebrows and say, "Hmmm?".



I would have been replaying each & every instance where I've asked for either permission or forgiveness and I'd say something like, "I can't agree with that".

Of course, I could be wrong because I'm probably not aware of something that may have happened in this community before I found it but ya never can tell, right?
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Originally Posted by Mr Michael Live View Post
I've never heard that but even if I had, it would have made me wrinkle my eyebrows and say, "Hmmm?".



I would have been replaying each & every instance where I've asked for either permission or forgiveness and I'd say something like, "I can't agree with that".

Of course, I could be wrong because I'm probably not aware of something that may have happened in this community before I found it but ya never can tell, right?


The adage "It's better/easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" usually is used by those who dislike the feel of rejection when told "no".
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Originally Posted by JoeMatt View Post
Heh. You read my story there and gave it a positive review. One of the only things I've seen your critique. But now I know why you were reading stories in the adult content section.

It also prompted quite the skirmish among some of the old members, including you. I just skimmed through the comments. Pretty funny.

I had to go back and skim myself. I'd forgotten completely about that.

There are basically two kinds of story in AC - Literotica style fantasy/wish fulfilment where sex is the story. That's really quite boring. And more often than not, badly written.

Then there's the story where the people are the story, the sex may or may not be 'erotic' but is there to serve a purpose beyond playing trouser-tents. If I'm going to read sex, that's what I'd prefer to read.

I think this is one of many reasons I have never been tempted to read 50 shades - it's puerile soft porn. From my limited understanding but unlimited imagination it seems that the most exciting part of BDSM relationships is psychological. But I digress.
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I've never heard that but even if I had, it would have made me wrinkle my eyebrows and say, "Hmmm?".

I would have been replaying each & every instance where I've asked for either permission or forgiveness and I'd say something like, "I can't agree with that".

Of course, I could be wrong because I'm probably not aware of something that may have happened in this community before I found it but ya never can tell, right?
The expression is usually used when there's room to interpret a rule, and you decide take advantage of the ambiguity and work around it. So it's usually about taking initiative -- with the assumption there will a good outcome.

In this case, a rape scene that isn't sexually explicit probably doesn't belong in the adults only section, and if you put it there, fewer people are going to see it. So instead of asking or overthinking it, you would go ahead and take the initiative and post it in Members Only -- taking the risk that someone might have a problem with it.

I use the expression at work all the time when I'm showing a client creative work. If the client has some set parameter based on "how we've always done things" or some other preconceived notion that may not be valid, I'll often take the risk and show them something different than what they think they want or need -- if there's a good business reason to do it. It usually pays off -- and as long as I have a back-up, no harm done.

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The adage "It's better/easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" usually is used by those who dislike the feel of rejection when told "no".
Well, no -- see above. But I could see how someone who is afraid to challenge a rule or ruffle any feathers might see it that way.

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Then there's the story where the people are the story, the sex may or may not be 'erotic' but is there to serve a purpose beyond playing trouser-tents. If I'm going to read sex, that's what I'd prefer to read.
If I include sex, that's the way I write it. And it's not about inserting tab A into slot B -- but there's no doubt about what's going on.

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I think this is one of many reasons I have never been tempted to read 50 shades - it's puerile soft porn. From my limited understanding but unlimited imagination it seems that the most exciting part of BDSM relationships is psychological. But I digress.
My wife thought 50 Shades was awful -- she didn't finish it, mainly because she thought the writing was so bad. On the other hand, she does sometimes read what she calls her "beach books" that include sex scenes. They have the desired affect, and I often benefit. But she'll be the first to tell you most of the sex scenes are pretty laughable.
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Sex is hard to do well. I'm lucky that I'm really good at it.

I can't write it though.
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Since your wife (and whoever else) isn't a member here, I guess we're just going to have to take your word for it.
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I have watched countless instructional videos on the subject of sex and I have to say having followed the lessons to the letter I have mastered the nine levels of sexual Nirvana.

Presently I am working on the final level commonly referred to as; The Art of The Cloud Burst.
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Well, I've never had any complaints -- and my wife still seems to pretty enthusiastic about it most of the time.

Who knows -- maybe I'm just adequate -- but it's worked for me so far.
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I'm satisfied with being adequate as long as the person I'm trying to please has high standards.

I thought 'Snake Farm' was pretty good but I seldom go to that forum. With a disclaimer, I see no reason why that story couldn't be in 'Members Only'.

We are, after all, adults or soon to be. If a person is offended by something they see there, they can do the adult thing and skim right by it. It's not like they're strapped to a chair with a mechanical device holding their eyelids open while a million TV screens play it over and over in front of them.
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Deflate your chests guys. I didn't want to start some kind of macho tug-a-war here.

Men who try to compete with other men to see who's the better lover are very, very immature to say the least.

There's no way in the world that anyone could prove they are better than anyone else either because there are way too many factors that could be different and would sway the results quite substantially.

I'll tell you a secret though that I've picked up on from the thousands of clients I've been with since 1993 and that is that, in most women's opinion, a confident lover is usually more exhilarating than the most skilled of the bunch any day.
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That's right folks he said thousands. He gets more pussy than a Lesbian clambake.
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Deflate your chests guys. I didn't want to start some kind of macho tug-a-war here.

Men who try to compete with other men to see who's the better lover are very, very immature to say the least.

There's no way in the world that anyone could prove they are better than anyone else either because there are way too many factors that could be different and would sway the results quite substantially.

I'll tell you a secret though that I've picked up on from the thousands of clients I've been with since 1993 and that is that, in most women's opinion, a confident lover is usually more exhilarating than the most skilled of the bunch any day.
Funny. There's no "macho tug-a-war" going on. We're just joking around. But thanks for filling us in on the awesome "secret."
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... a confident lover is usually more exhilarating than the most skilled of the bunch any day.
That's why I'm the best.

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Is the adult content forum still being used? Do rape scenes belong there instead of members only?
YES!!! I didn't bother to read any other posts 'cause they'll all say the same thing! With commercials of this era advertising how toddlers are learning computer skills with computers now a pivotal part of school education and being hooked up to the internet being considered the 'smart thing' children at present have [I]far[/] more access to internet sites than adults. So any responsible adult knows better than to post anything that would not be rated TV PG on television on a site like this unless it was in a restricted access section. Sorry about saying the same things everyone else must have told you. I just had to say it, myself.

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^ As far as I remember, to get access to the adult content section, you just have to check a box claiming you're 18.

So anyone with unfettered access to the internet who's looking for titillating content and chooses to bypass the bazillion porn sites out there in favor of a writing site on some obscure corner of the internet could get in there without too much trouble. Pretty sure it's just CYA thing for the site owners.

Regardless, last time I checked, Members Only is for members only -- the chances of some innocent child out there stumbling across a story with a rape scene in it are slim-to-none. So unless the scene is sexually explicit, there's really no good reason not to post it in Members Only.

And really -- any member who's underage will be able to get to it regardless of where you post it -- so it's really just about making an effort to follow the site rules. There's no sense in pretending like it's actually going to shield anyone from non-PG content.

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I had to PM a Moderator and tell them I was of age when I first joined so I doubt it's that easy for most. As a matter of fact I've received PM's from members asking for admittance to the AC because they couldn't get in from the "normal" procedure and I directed them to an administrator.
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It was that easy for me. Maybe it's changed -- but there's still no way to verify someone's age -- same as when people first join.

Besides, adults only is for explicit content, not "non-PG" content. That can be handled with a disclaimer in Members only, like Tau said.

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