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"You can't go home again..." You're right, Gaines, nothing will ever be the same, just like the renewed IT was nothing like the old one, but WB brought me a long way, as JustcallmeEd, and then as Prodigalson, and I'd be willing to put some effort into "paying it forward," as it were.

It seems these technical difficulties are the main detriment to the site, and I'm not savvy in such things. Does anyone have the time and inclination to look into some concrete solutions?
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If I gain access to this site via Internet Explorer, it's a mess of little boxes with crosses in.

If I use Chrome, it's o.k. It's not the exceptionally user-friendly site it used to be - but still on par with most of them out there.
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I access on my iPhone through Tapatalk. It was down for a bit a few months ago, but has since been strong.

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Originally Posted by Prodigalson View Post
"You can't go home again..." You're right, Gaines, nothing will ever be the same, just like the renewed IT was nothing like the old one, but WB brought me a long way, as JustcallmeEd, and then as Prodigalson, and I'd be willing to put some effort into "paying it forward," as it were.

It seems these technical difficulties are the main detriment to the site, and I'm not savvy in such things. Does anyone have the time and inclination to look into some concrete solutions?


Hey S,

How's the book coming? Still in the works?
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I'm not convinced it all boils down to technical issues. It's like a pub - you stick your head in the door, scan the room for someone you know, and make a sharp exit if it's a room full of strangers.

There seems to be quite a flow of new members who post a piece - then promptly disappear. You can have good intentions of giving your time to try and encourage new writers - but you can end up feeling disinclined to bother if they're not interested enough to come back and collect commentary on their submission. They don't stay long enough to make an impact or build relationships.
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I'm not convinced it all boils down to technical issues. It's like a pub - you stick your head in the door, scan the room for someone you know, and make a sharp exit if it's a room full of strangers.

There seems to be quite a flow of new members who post a piece - then promptly disappear. You can have good intentions of giving your time to try and encourage new writers - but you can end up feeling disinclined to bother if they're not interested enough to come back and collect commentary on their submission. They don't stay long enough to make an impact or build relationships.


I belong to a dozen Facebook writers groups. It's like ADHD mania all the time, with useless soul-draining posts and games. Trolling seems to be the only post-worthy thing happening. No real writing, but lots of people who want to become writers for a couple days. And if I tell someone to fuck-off, suddenly I'm the bad guy.
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BP, I have warm, affectionate memories of you wiping the floor with a particularly aggressive, foul-mouthed and convinced-he-was-a-genius newbie. The exchange escalated over five pages in the space of an hour. It was around three in the morning U.K time - I couldn't go to bed because I was laughing so hard. Strangely enough, he didn't come back.

Youth of today eh? Invest three minutes in writing "the cat shat on the mat" and then get mightily aggrieved when a publisher doesn't PM them with a contract by teatime.

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Hey S,

How's the book coming? Still in the works?
The book's done, but life has intervened to the point I barely have time to get on the computer anymore. I need to be pursuing publishing, but it is a rare time indeed where I can think about anything other than work (which is going well), and family (my girlfriend's mother is dying and it has stirred up a firestorm of greed amongst the sisters).

You've still got a signed copy coming, though.
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So nice to see your name around the place. x
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MikeC isn't a bad guy. Like almost any other intellectual, he strongly backs his opinions. A determination to take a stance on certain issues often leads to clashes, but his heart is in the right place. It is foolish to pile on him.
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MikeC isn't a bad guy. Like almost any other intellectual, he strongly backs his opinions. A determination to take a stance on certain issues often leads to clashes, but his heart is in the right place. It is foolish to pile on him.


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I miss Mike C. We need controversy - and he was gifted in bringing a simmering pot to the boil. He's intelligent, and his photography captured the stories in people's faces.

Cityboy, I know you're often on the wrong end of the rifle - but you're much loved y'know. Are you still writing? x
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Originally Posted by Grace Gabriel View Post
I miss Mike C. We need controversy - and he was gifted in bringing a simmering pot to the boil. He's intelligent, and his photography captured the stories in people's faces.



Cityboy, I know you're often on the wrong end of the rifle - but you're much loved y'know. Are you still writing? x


I like talking with MikeC too. I edit for his magazine (Oddville), but never interact with him except here (and that only occasionally these days). I've taken to throwing bricks at his window in hopes he might come 'round. But he has a big personality, eh? Not sure the slimmed down version of WB could hold him.
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That, or he's busy with his new boyfriends...

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I miss Mike C. We need controversy - and he was gifted in bringing a simmering pot to the boil. He's intelligent, and his photography captured the stories in people's faces.

Cityboy, I know you're often on the wrong end of the rifle - but you're much loved y'know. Are you still writing? x
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The Intellect and the ego are like a horse and buggy. People glue their azzes to chairs for years to study and to learn and then turn their mouths into their azzes to dump all the chit they believe is important.
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The Intellect and the ego are like a horse and buggy. People glue their azzes to chairs for years to study and to learn and then turn their mouths into their azzes to dump all the chit they believe is important.


This is a rather shallow characterization. Do you really believe this?

I admire the simplicity of your world view.
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" The ego hurts you like this: you become obsessed with the one person who does not love you. Blind to the rest who do." - Warsan Shire

Er...was it a 'yes' or 'no' to "still writing"?
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" The ego hurts you like this: you become obsessed with the one person who does not love you. Blind to the rest who do." - Warsan Shire

Er...was it a 'yes' or 'no' to "still writing"?
I still write a bit, but now am an instructor teaching seniors how to play all types of card games--pinochle, hearts, spades, rummy, casino, brisk, etc.


Grace, I respectfully disagree with the person who wrote the ego quote. It is the ego which puts a person in the position of choosing. A loving person (living life from his or her true self) would ignore anyone who has a 'beef" with him or her. Therefore, the quote is from the perspective of the ego. The trick is to put the ego to bed, once and for all. It's tough to do because the vast majority of folks wouldn't know how to function without their ego controlling/running their lives.

You're a swell person. I always admired you. Classy gal.

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I don't have as much time to particiapte these says.

Too busy elsewhere -- dumping all that important chit from my azz.

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The Intellect and the ego are like a horse and buggy. People glue their azzes to chairs for years to study and to learn and then turn their mouths into their azzes to dump all the chit they believe is important.
And really -- can you step back and believe this comment comes from someone who has an understanding and some amount of control over his ego -- as it is revealed online to strangers?

You may want to think about it...
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I still write a bit, but now am an instructor teaching seniors how to play all types of card games--pinochle, hearts, spades, rummy, casino, brisk, etc.


Grace, I respectfully disagree with the person who wrote the ego quote. It is the ego which puts a person in the position of choosing. A loving person (living life from his or her true self) would ignore anyone who has a 'beef" with him or her. Therefore, the quote is from the perspective of the ego. The trick is to put the ego to bed, once and for all. It's tough to do because the vast majority of folks wouldn't know how to function without their ego controlling/running their lives.

You're a swell person. I always admired you. Classy gal.

Hey CB,

Y'know, I think we fundamentally agree- but perhaps expressing the same point differently?

People tend to think of 'ego' being associated with people who rate themselves highly - yes, it can be - but it can also be the opposite. The ego is responsible for feelings of inferiority. Constantly comparing oneself to other people, and finding one's own success lacking. Needing to dominate an argument, a person or a situation to feed the ego and validate oneself by being better... an intrinsic need to come out on top. 'Loss of face' through any perceived failure is unbearable... that's all ego-driven behaviour.

You're absolutely right - a person happy in their own skin and not driven by ego doesn't need to prove themselves as being right all the time - they don't love themselves any less for being wrong.

So, Warsan's quote is saying that the ego is capable of making someone become obsessed with the ONE person who doesn't like or agree with them to the point of blinding them to the love and support they already have.

In the rich tapestry of WB threads, we have known characters who stalked other members from thread to thread waiting to leap on their every word and pick a fault. I remember JoeMatt particularly for cryptic and acidic comments and his relentless pursuit of Lon Palmer from thread to thread, always trying to undermine him. Joe was a gifted writer and generally a witty, amiable guy - but a consummate prick if anyone disagreed with him.

My point was - sometimes I don't agree with your views CB - sometimes I do. Regardless, I love having you around. You're part of the fabric of this place. I enjoy your writing. I enjoy some of the heated exchanges you get embroiled in because they're so incredibly entertaining . You have a track record for dive-bombing controversy (and causing it) and this place would be far less interesting without you. x
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But apparently, also a gifted writer and generally, a witty and amiable guy.

I think it's best we remember him that way. After all, no one's perfect.
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Yeah, he was a good writer.

Probably tortured enough by just being himself.

It's always good to remember the good things about someone.

And hey... Lon Palmer was no angel.
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Yep. Gotta think about why people act out on line.

The guy is probably married to a nagging shrew, has a couple of bratty kids -- and he has some kind of job where he toils away in mediocrity.

Probably dealing with a lot of pent up anger and frustration.
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Yeah, I almost feel sorry for that fucker now. Except... I saw a picture of his wife one time. Man, she was hot. Can't imagine she's a shrew. Maybe, though. You never know from pictures.
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But apparently, also a gifted writer and generally, a witty and amiable guy.

I think it's best we remember him that way. After all, no one's perfect.
(laughing) Ok... I get how that reads.....

but not over-generous claims Myers - in the early days, his contribution here was worthwhile. (I think he was a mod at some point?) but then he gradually turned into Jack Nicholson from 'The Shining'.
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