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My latest song and lyrics. The lyrics are a little corny -- but in keeping with retro sound and music, I think. Happy to hear any feedback -- rerecording the vocals is probably the easiest thing.

And I don't think Brian Patrick would mind if I gave him some props for giving me really solid feedback overall, plus helping me with the mix and production etc. Cheers.

Untrue

I’ve always told you I’d be there if things went wrong.
I could see it from a mile away – and I knew it wouldn’t take that long.

So pack your things –
I’ll be round at eight.
I’ll meet you in the vestibule
Now don’t be late.

(Chorus)

Because…
Everything he told you was – untrue.
Now it’s time for the boy to get his due.

Listen to your heart…
The time has come --
you know exactly you should do,

Come on with me…
‘Cuz everything he told you was untrue.

You never believed that you were good enough for anyone --
why you’re always falling for any guy livin’ under the sun.

There could be someone you know, girl --
take a good look around --
who’ll return all your love, girl
and never dream of putting you down.

(Chorus)

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Old 09-01-2017, 09:09 AM
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Spot on Myers......corny lyrics, but when I listened to the song it reminded me of early to mid sixties. I was pretty impressed with what you've got together. Was it your voice? If brians input was over the net, you'd benefit being in the same room together-more spontaneous and immediate. Your voice fits that period.
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Will save this for later - the house is too noisy right now to absorb it.
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I like the dreamy kind of vibe you've got going on here, it's all quite atmospheric. Thanks for sharing.
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First of all: Lyrics are almost always shit poetry and poetry is always almost shit lyrics. The comparison is silly.

The introduction was beautiful. It felt like a step back in time, very acoustic guitar orientated, it harked back to another time. A hit? No. Incredibly pleasant to listen to? Yes.

I think you are very talented. Who are you in the band? Rhythm, (joint) vocalist, drum, was their much else?
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Kev -- thanks for listening. I do the all the singing -- main vocals and harmonies. It would be cool if BP could give me real-time input, but he lives across the country. I just send him the songs at various stages of completion. Didn't consciously go for a '60's sound -- it just seemed to come out that way. I'm a student of all eras of modern pop music -- I suppose it's osmosis of some sort.

Leila -- Thanks for taking the time to listen. Atmospheric -- I'll take that any day of the week. Cheers.

Chinspinner -- yeah, I'm not comparing lyrics to poetry. There is a lyrics section here -- but no one pays much attention to it, so I'm bending the rules a bit.

There are people who a lot of experience in the music biz who try to pick hits -- it's a bit of a mystery and not really a concern. This is all mostly something I do because I love to write and play music.

There's no band presently. I sing, play all the tracks, guitars, bass, keyboards when needed. I'm a competent drummer -- but these days I use my knowledge of drumming to program virtual drums -- I use a keyboard to place actual individual recorded drum hits. That way I can lay down drum tracks without making all the racket.

Got tired of trying to put bands together -- people are either not serious at all, or they're way to into it and beyond playing in what is essentially a hobby band -- not many folks in between.

Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know. Thanks for listening and commenting. Cheers.

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Kev -- thanks for listening. I do the all the singing -- main vocals and harmonies. It would be cool if BP could give me real-time input, but he lives across the country. I just send him the songs at various stages of completion. Didn't consciously go for a '60's sound -- it just seemed to come out that way. I'm a student of all eras of modern pop music -- I suppose it's osmosis of some sort.

Leila -- Thanks for taking the time to listen. Atmospheric -- I'll take that any day of the week. Cheers.

Chinspinner -- yeah, I'm not comparing lyrics to poetry. There is a lyrics section here -- but no one pays much attention to it, so I'm bending the rules a bit.

There are people who a lot of experience in the music biz who try to pick hits -- it's a bit of a mystery and not really a concern. This is all mostly something I do because I love to write and play music.

There's no band presently. I sing, play all the tracks, guitars, bass, keyboards when needed. I'm a competent drummer -- but these days I use my knowledge of drumming to program virtual drums -- I use a keyboard to place actual individual recorded drum hits. That way I can lay down drum tracks without making all the racket.

Got tired of trying to put bands together -- people are either not serious at all, or they're way to into it and beyond playing in what is essentially a hobby -- not many folks in between.

Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know. Thanks for listening and commenting. Cheers.
It was far more than I wanted to know, but I am very impressed that you did it all. \My question: can you do lead guitarist? Can you do a solo?
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Well -- there's a solo in the song...
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If you mean like a burn it up guitar solo? I can do that.

There's one on this song from my last band/music project:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4...HgzeGpkX2NNd0U

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Sooo mellow.

The tempo and echoey guitar reminded me of the music from 'Twin Peaks'.

Seriously - why isn't this your living?

What was BP's input on this?
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Myers, stop asking me to watch blank screens. There are many ways you can present your talent these days, mate.
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If you mean like a burn it up guitar solo? I can do that.

There's one on this song from my last band/music project:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4...HgzeGpkX2NNd0U
Were you on the keyboard?
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Myers, stop asking me to watch blank screens. There are many ways you can present your talent these days, mate.
OK -- you don't just LISTEN to music?

All right then.
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Were you on the keyboard?
Oh no -- that's a REAL keyboard guy. He played the drums too. Great musician.
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Ok if that is you Myers, you have respect
That lead is good, no great. Is that you?
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Ok if that is you Myers, you have respect
That lead is good, no great. Is that you?
Heh -- yes it's me.

I'd say it's good -- and I'm OK with that. It works fine with the song. And there are also lot of great guitarists who don't play traditional or typical solos...
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Heh -- yes it's me.

I'd say it's good -- and I'm OK with that. It works fine with the song. And there are also lot of great guitarists who don't play traditional or typical solos...
I think I love you a little Myers, it is part the bull shit, but mainly that you sell it so well. Good job>
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I think I love you a little Myers, it is part the bull shit, but mainly that you sell it so well. Good job>
Good. Cuz that's exactly how I make my real living -- selling bullshit.

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Sooo mellow.

The tempo and echoey guitar reminded me of the music from 'Twin Peaks'.

Seriously - why isn't this your living?

What was BP's input on this?
Thanks Grace!

Well, it was my dream at one point -- but shit happens.

BP was a sanity check at first. He has a good ear and this felt so out of my wheelhouse. I just wanted to know if he thought it was headed in the right direction.

Then it was about fine tuning -- about the mix and the sound of the bass etc.

And when you're working in a vacuum sometimes you just need a little advice and encouragement...
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If you mean like a burn it up guitar solo? I can do that.

There's one on this song from my last band/music project:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4...HgzeGpkX2NNd0U


I like this song!

Did you write this? That's you singing (I think). You should re-record this one. It's a fun tune. Got that Georgia raw sound.
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Great talent man. I'm with Brian - you aught to re-record the second one. A couple of suggestions (that you can take or leave) if you do: a touch less reverb and more volume (to compensate for less reverb) in the vocals; a bit less fuzz in the guitar solo so the faster sequences don't sound as blended.

I started learning guitar a few years ago. I'm not very good. Wish I started when I was young. It feels like I would have picked it up quicker and become more fluid if I had. Have come up with a few songs, folksy acoustic ones mainly, but as I said I'm no good as a guitarist and worse as a singer. I wish I had your skills if only so I could hear my songs played and sung well. At least then I'd be able to tell if they really are as bad as i make them sound haha.
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Great talent man. I'm with Brian - you aught to re-record the second one. A couple of suggestions (that you can take or leave) if you do: a touch less reverb and more volume (to compensate for less reverb) in the vocals; a bit less fuzz in the guitar solo so the faster sequences don't sound as blended.

I started learning guitar a few years ago. I'm not very good. Wish I started when I was young. It feels like I would have picked it up quicker and become more fluid if I had. Have come up with a few songs, folksy acoustic ones mainly, but as I said I'm no good as a guitarist and worse as a singer. I wish I had your skills if only so I could hear my songs played and sung well. At least then I'd be able to tell if they really are as bad as i make them sound haha.


And don't speed up the tempo. Keep it straight. Do your solo and finish with the chorus again. I can't hear the bass because I'm out of town working and listening on my phone. Party on Wayne!

Okay... I'm a little drunk.
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Also... is the 'r' button broken on your keyboard?
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I'm on a phone. Make mistakes on this thing all the time. Sorry.
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I'm on a phone. Make mistakes on this thing all the time. Sorry.


Not you dummy😀

The title of the thread...
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Thanks guys.

It's one of my songs and yeah that's me singing in my old comfort zone range-wise.

This was one of my aborted projects -- and attempt to get a band together to play local shows and maybe open for some bigger acts. My intent at the time was to have a lead singer, but after several tryouts, that didn't pan out -- so it was back to me.

I like the song. But it feels a bit cliche to me now and I'm kind of over it.

The keyboards make it. With some effort and piecing things together, I could get pretty close.

The guy who played drums (and keyboards) -- he can be really good -- but he gets ahead of himself on some of his fills. That's always bugged me.

Another thing that makes this sound good is that it was professionally mastered -- that makes a big difference -- so much more bright and cohesive.

Otherwise, I've got some straight ahead rock and roll songs in the hopper that I think are better -- so I don't really feel the need to rerecord this one.

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Not you dummy😀

The title of the thread...
Bugs the shit out me that you can't change your thread titles...
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I started learning guitar a few years ago. I'm not very good. Wish I started when I was young. It feels like I would have picked it up quicker and become more fluid if I had. Have come up with a few songs, folksy acoustic ones mainly, but as I said I'm no good as a guitarist and worse as a singer. I wish I had your skills if only so I could hear my songs played and sung well. At least then I'd be able to tell if they really are as bad as i make them sound haha.
I'm not sure exactly why, but it seems more difficult for adults to learn -- but more and more are trying. Guitar Center, the big music story chain markets almost exclusively to men over 40 -- it makes sense since they have the money. The underlying theme is basically about living out your rock and roll fantasies and feeling young. BTW -- I'm not putting you in that category.

Anyway, there's a little overpriced music store near me where I buy strings etc. -- they specialize in lessons -- and the lady said for the first time they have more adult guitar beginner students than kids, and she said most are difficult to teach.

I think part of it is that the few kids who really want to play and have some aptitude practice a whole lot on their own. I always had a guitar in my hand when I was a kid. I just started teaching my daughter and now practically the first thing she does when she gets home is pick up a guitar.

Funny, because it's a replay of when I was a kid -- my wife saying -- "Stop playing that thing when I'm talking to you!" I've been tempted to say it too -- but I know it's perfectly possible to listen and play at the same time...
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Bugs the shit out me that you can't change your thread titles...
Untrue...

Oh, wait.


I tried to go into your OP to edit everything but it disappeared so I backed out of it.
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Oh -- ha ha yeah. I didn't even notice it in the post, just the title.

Weird -- for the first time in a while, I hit edit and the box was empty.

Anyway, thanks for changing the title!

P.S. -- just changed the post on my phone...

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