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Old 08-14-2010, 05:14 PM
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Hello, my homies!

I have a problem. I want to write this story that has been brewing in my head for the past year or so. It's about a young girl who falls for an older guy. There's a big age difference since she's about 16 and he's 48. They have a mutual liking for each other and everything, but the girl wants to take it to the next step. He says no because he could go to prison and her mother would kill them both, but she won't take no for an answer and eventually they get together. It mainly just going through their two years together. All the drama, the rumors, hiding the relationship, almost breaking up, lying to her mother, dealing with a friend that knows and tries to blackmail her. Basically, just her teenage life.

I know this would be a very touchy story and I know a lot of people wouldn't like it (most likely), but it seems like it would make for an interesting to read to me.

I'm very close to this story and have the whole thing planned in my head, the thing is: Should I write it?

Help, people, help!

Thanks for everyone's advice and input,

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P.S. I am a firm believer that age makes no difference when it comes to love.

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Old 08-14-2010, 08:15 PM
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No story should never be not written. I say go for it. Writing is based on bringing the attention of a situation. It doesn't matter if it is controversy. It isn't about good or bad.
Just write it.
Its a story you want to read, its a message you want to convey. It doesn't matter whether it is controversial or not.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:20 PM
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Thanks, J.P.! That's how I'm looking at it, but I don't won't to start a lot of shizzle about it. I will probably write it soon. Or at least get it going.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:27 PM
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There will always be people who get their underwear in a bunch about it and then there will people who will enjoy it.
Don't worry to much about it.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:29 PM
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True, very true. I wasn't looking at it like that. I mostly go off of what people I know in real life say about it. And it's always very mixed and not usually nice.
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Doesn't matter. You have a specific idea and a message in your mind. And you should write it. Doesn't matter what they say.
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I agree with JP. Write it.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:34 PM
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Thanks again, J.P..

And thank you as well, Writing.Geek.
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:42 AM
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There isn't any written work capable of shining a light on the inner workings of the human heart or the truth of life, society or culture that should not be told. Do you think Lolita would exist if not for courage? Never mind public sentiments, they are generally full of hypocrisy anyway.
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Old 08-15-2010, 07:06 AM
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Look at the success (although controversial) of Lolita by Vladmir Nabokov. And he goes for the 9-12 yr old 'nymphets'.
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:18 AM
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It takes a VERY talented writer to pull off a 'slice of life' story. No real plot, just some awesome character studies/ideas. *R.I.P. J.D. Salinger* If I were you I would think long and hard about what your main idea of the whole thing is. That age isn't an issue when it comes to love? So you're going to end it 'happily ever after'? That would piss some parents off and be pretty unrealistic (not impossible, just unrealistic). Are you going to make it more true to life and have a flaming wreck of a relationship at the end? They have a baby together, he accuses her of cheating and they have to go on Maury for a paternity test? She sues him for child support, moves back in with her mom (told you so), and it takes her 4 years to complete a trade school that should have been done in 2 because she (her mom) was raising the baby and working part time?
What is the message you want to portray? Build the story around that.

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Old 08-15-2010, 02:33 PM
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Thanks guys.

@ moxycat: Trust me, it won't be happily ever after. When I said that, I was just stating that as a fact on my beliefs. I'm not even sure how it will end yet, but it won't be happy. Not for either of them. There's four main people, all of which will be affected by this relationship. And not all of them will be happy.
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Nice! I like realistic plots: people die, people get hurt, s**t falls apart etc! It's ironic because drama isn't my favorite genre at all, but if drama's gotta happen it should be as real as possible.
I still think you should throw Maury in the mix! LOL! "You are NOT the father!"
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:07 AM
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Write it, Castiel. Writing can be a journey for us, if we have the courage to follow our interests and see where they take us. Write your story, and let other people decide whether it's controversial or not.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:42 PM
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Nice! I like realistic plots: people die, people get hurt, s**t falls apart etc! It's ironic because drama isn't my favorite genre at all, but if drama's gotta happen it should be as real as possible.
I still think you should throw Maury in the mix! LOL! "You are NOT the father!"
Lol. It's definitely what you said up there. But I don't know about that Maury thing, depends on what happens.

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Write it, Castiel. Writing can be a journey for us, if we have the courage to follow our interests and see where they take us. Write your story, and let other people decide whether it's controversial or not.
Thanks, HoiLei.
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:32 PM
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I can't think of a more eloquent way to say this... Betty Smith wrote a novel (A Tree Grows in Brooklyn) with "no plot" and it rocked. I mean, seriously. It's timeless.
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:54 PM
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Thanks, Nem. If I can figure out where to begin, I might just get something done. Lol.
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Yes, write it.

I actually have a friend (she's 15) who went out with a 26 year old. I had my views on it, he was a sleaze. She could have done better, she is beautiful, but now I have no relationship with her because I lack the ability to understand why she ever thought he was good enough. Mind you they're not together any more.

Practically what she had going on was exactly like you have in mind, sneaking around, lying, (except I didn't try to blackmail her, lol) It was interesting to say the least.
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In the town I live in, these stories are the norm. Just not everybody knows about it. Mine is extremely close to me, so I'm super excited to write it. If I can just get it out!

Ugh, I may pull all my hair out before the nights over with!
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I agree with everybody on here. Write it! A good read is something that gets talked about or so i think anyway.
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I'd read it. Sounds pretty interesting. Even the smallest little thing causes controversy nowadays.
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What do you mean good or bad? The answer to your question is obvious; both and niether. Some people think its good, some bad, and some, like me, think it entirely depends on the context whether someone judges it good and bad; and then it is always a subjective judgement.
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Good writing comes from the distorted workings of the mind and heart not from the perfected and unrealistic norm of a culture.
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Compared to other stories, this theme isn't very conflictual at all.
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Write it with passion. Write it with honesty. Anything less is just words on paper. Give it life.
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Write it with passion. Write it with honesty. Anything less is just words on paper. Give it life.
If you never listen to any other advice, listen to this. Write it down and refer to it often.
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Originally Posted by Gaines View Post
Write it with passion. Write it with honesty. Anything less is just words on paper. Give it life.
I love that, Gainesy. Simply love it.

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If you never listen to any other advice, listen to this. Write it down and refer to it often.
I will, Mike, I will.
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Oh my, how boring would a story be without controversy?

Without being unkind, it's worth considering that there's very little scope for originality. For instance, everything ever written boils down to seven plots. Throughout history others have hazarded 12, 14 and 32 ways of categorising these things. But young girl/older man has certainly been done several times before.

So really, it's not about the plot. It's about how you tell it.

I know a lot of people wouldn't like it


If you're talking about the general public, that's a shocking way of thinking. The more controversy the better. Get down right dirty, into the nitty-gritty, thoroughly through the heart of it and then roll around in your glorious creation. There's never been a book written that everybody liked. You're aiming for the majority vote, and the main way to lose that is boredom, not controversy.

However, if you're talking about people close to you, friends and family on whom you're about to blow the lid, then I'd take some time out to think about that. Actual personal vendettas do tend to be a little boring. You only have to open the problem pages in most teen angst magazines to realise they make a half-decent sedative.

Again, it's not what you're writing, it's how you tell it. Can you bring it to life in such a way that people can relate, that they want to know more, that they enjoy you making them think?

And then, can you live with the consequences? There's a handful of things I'd like to write some day, if I outlive the people I'm writing about. Because, no matter how well I fictionalise the events and the characters, whoever was involved will know I'm writing about them, or that I've used something they've told me.

As tempting as it is sometimes, there are certain boundaries we set for ourselves for reasons of self-preservation. As artists it's very important sometimes. It's easy to get carried away and find that your world of fiction is impacting in a negative sense on your waking reality. A moment's release can lead to a lifetime cleaning up the mess.

If you can't entirely fictionalise it, and you really don't want to let it go, then the very best advice I could suggest would be: pseudonym.

Publish under a different name, and don't tell anyone in your immediate circle that you've done it. If you're writing because it's a good story, that should cover your back. If you're writing as a personal get-back, consider Jerry Springer, it'll probably get you a larger following.
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I'm not sure if my opinion will be helpful or not. However, it's my firm belief that reality is in the mind of the writer. I've read many different books, and most of them teeter on impossibility as we know it. Stephen King is a favorite of mine, and while The Shining and Rose Red are "realistic" stories for those who believe in hauntings, they are blasphemy to close-minded people.

If writers only wrote books on subjects that are universally agreed upon, we'd have no writers. Someone will always take issue with something, even if it's a complete work of fiction.

You're writing for you, first and foremost. So, yes, write it!
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