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Old 09-05-2018, 05:45 PM
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Default Trumpís latest trouble


Bob Woodwardís book followed by the The NY Timesí anonymous op-ed has caused a big stir here in the states.

Iím no Trump fan, but this ďcoincidentalĒ timing seems fishy to me.

Iím betting the writer of the op-ed is someone with their eye on the chair in the Oval Office, and Iím certain weíll know the name before weeks end.

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Old 09-05-2018, 06:40 PM
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Who knows.

Of all people, Woodward would know that the use of anonymous sources should be very carefully considered.

Back in the day, at the time of Watergate, there was a serious vetting process at newspapers that carefully considered the risks of using those sources --- with the best interest of the public in mind.

That day is long gone -- and the trust has been squandered. Anonymous sources have been used in the most trivial way, to the point where Trump can easily dismiss anything if it can't be attributed to a named, reliable source -- and his supporters totally buy it. And in a way, I can't blame them.

In that respect, Trump has totally outmaneuvered the so called mainstream or liberally biased media, to the point where he can deny ANYTHING they say about him and call it fake news -- and the Trumpsters will believe it!

You really have to hand it to him...

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The trouble with Trump is that the clue is in the name. Nothing can go wrong after that.
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The trouble with Trump is that the clue is in the name. Nothing can go wrong after that.


Yes, yes, I see your point... the clue is in the name... hmm...
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Yes, yes, I see your point... the clue is in the name... hmm...
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I would start a new post, but one of my greatest heroes, Stephen Fry, once said (do not feed the trolls) the best way we can kill people who crave attention is not to pay attention to them- or words to that effect.

I see at the moment, that he has a very high potential of winning a second term, because the alternative has failed to recognise that they enabled/ facilitated his win. It seems strange to me that there is no self-reflection, but then I have to do it more often than most.
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It's been a week or more, and no knowledge of this anonymous.



There are various scenarios


1. The anonymous source is real, and is really a part of tRUMP's admin.



2. There are indicators that if it was real, it could be several people, including Pence. (based on words and phrases unique to these people)



3. This was written by someone that used to be in the cabinet or further down in the admin.


4. This could be written by someone with no connection but is just stirring up shit.


5. Someone on the staff of the NYT wrote this, and made up the deep throat angle.


My instinct would lead me to 3, 4, or 5, with 4 or 5 being the most likely.



In a previous era, there are reasons that the NYT would never have printed something like this.



If you look at 1 and 2, and zero in on let's say, Pence, it doesn't seem to me to be in his nature to do something like this.
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Yeah, donít think itís Pence. That whole lodestar crap could have been inserted by anyone. And I think Pence is a cock-asaurus-and-a-useless-piece-of-shit (would love to bash him), but this whole thing really seems like convenient for the advertising of the Woodward book, and the NYTís ongoing leftist campaign against anything short of the lefty/neo-con agenda. The righty/neo-cons donít have to do anything real for now because they already have congress and the presidency.

Feels like intelligence community activity.

Itís already dying out. Trump seems to be made of Teflon.
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
Yeah, don’t think it’s Pence. That whole lodestar crap could have been inserted by anyone. And I think Pence is a cock-asaurus-and-a-useless-piece-of-shit (would love to bash him), but this whole thing really seems like convenient for the advertising of the Woodward book, and the NYT’s ongoing leftist campaign against anything short of the lefty/neo-con agenda. The righty/neo-cons don’t have to do anything real for now because they already have congress and the presidency.

Feels like intelligence community activity.

It’s already dying out. Trump seems to be made of Teflon.
No, Trump is only Teflon because the Democrat wok is rusty. This has never been a decision for Trump, it has always been a decision against Democrat policies and candidates.

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No, Trump is only Teflon because the Democrat wok is rusty. This has never been a decision for Trump, it has always been a decision against Democrat policies and candidates.


The democrats and republicans are both neo-consódef since Bill Clinton and maybe before. Weíre fucked here in the states. A real Democrat wouldnít get two steps out the door, politically. They are being beat by socialists right and left (no pun intended.)

The Trumptyís are a poor reaction to poorer political options (as you said.) I donít see any good way out of trouble for a long while. Hold your English balls when our stock market finally crashes; itís going to be a bumpy ride.
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The democrats and republicans are both neo-consódef since Bill Clinton and maybe before. Weíre fucked here in the states. A real Democrat wouldnít get two steps out the door, politically. They are being beat by socialists right and left (no pun intended.)

The Trumptyís are a poor reaction to poorer political options (as you said.) I donít see any good way out of trouble for a long while. Hold your English balls when our stock market finally crashes; itís going to be a bumpy ride.
Agreed. This crash will be a bitch because there are no fiscal options left. You cannot lower interest rates, you cannot print yet more money, you cannot provide any fiscal impetus. You cannot spend money you emphatically do not have on infrastructure to create false jobs. We are fucked!
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Our money has no value other than what we put on it. To the average man on the streets, it doesn't matter whether there's ten trillion or a hundred trillion dollars in circulation - if he can buy food to put on the table, he's happy.

So yes, money could be printed to pay for wages to produce - anything - and as long as the producers could buy bread, they'd be satisfied.
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