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Old 05-06-2009, 01:06 PM
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And no one seems to be giving me anything constructive?

I know I'm not good by any means... that's why I came here.

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Old 05-06-2009, 01:11 PM
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What have you submitted?
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:12 PM
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One rough short story and a few poems... I really want to improve.
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:22 PM
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I've found that the best way to get constructive critiques is to give more! Give out the kind of comments that you would like to have, and the other members really do notice. "Critique to be critiqued!" The more that you make a helpful presence of yourself, the more that people will see your work and read it. Sometimes it's not immediate because it really does take some time to come up with in-depth critiques, but eventually they will come around! Don't give up!
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Thank you. But the problem is how can i critique when I don't know anything myself? Haha. I've been leaving comments... but I don't have much constructive to say.
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:42 PM
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One magic word, Opinion. However you deem yourself, the opinion of a writer is always beneficial. You read, so you know what you like, apply it here. Once you give a why, nothing is forbidden. Oh, another magic word ( I know, i'm improvising) the other magic word is time. i trust this crowd to come up with any answer, even if they take their time

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Old 05-06-2009, 03:01 PM
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You may come to wish we had never started in on you. Just kidding. I will try to find something worth saying about your work, but often I just don't have anything to say that would be helpful.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:27 PM
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Thank you all!
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:56 PM
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I'm gonna be honest here and it may not make you like me. But you joined, I saw that, then suddenly there were loads of poems and a story. In a very short space of time. You can't just throw your work at us and expect us to fix all that for you right away without you giving anything back.

Give and you'll recieve.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:48 PM
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Give and you'll recieve.
Agreed. Pony please. I shall call him Dreadsteed and train him to go fetch me crisps from the shop.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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Giving an opnion of what you like or don't like and the reasons why is enough to be a critique. No one expects everyone that joins to be an editor. Just join in the melee and things will work out fine.
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gaines View Post
Giving an opnion of what you like or don't like and the reasons why is enough to be a critique. No one expects everyone that joins to be an editor. Just join in the melee and things will work out fine.

Thanks! I'm sorry for being a pain
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:32 AM
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Don't worry... you're not a pain.

I am, if anything goes.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:02 AM
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What I do know is that other writers can never have enough people who are willing to read their work at the rough stage and just tell them how it made them feel as a reader. A writer can get alot from that simple information... like whether or not a scene is creating the mood they wanted, or whether or not a character is coming off the way they had intended. You don't need to be a SPAG master, or hold an English degree (although both do help) to give a thoughtful critique.
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Old 05-08-2009, 03:25 PM
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The color of that text made my eyes dialate so much I fear my retnas inverted. Content still stands though, all of em do. Don't worry Shlay, not a pain. You get an answer and we get to share our opinions. we all win.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:44 PM
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*steals Tau's cookies and hands to him *
How dare you steal a cookie!
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:33 AM
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My pink text hurts eyes? Meh, I've always used this color. It's just my way. Just be thankful I have the sense to stay in black when I post work.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:50 AM
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But the problem is how can i critique when I don't know anything myself?
To bad more people don't realize that.

But there is a differnence between "critique" and "feedback". If you read, you are part of a potential audience and your input is worth something.

It might actually be more valuable for somebody to hear, "I can't figure out what this sentence means" than to get some "learned" discussion.

kal has a point--this isn't a shop where drop things off to get repaired, it's interactive. And if you're around commenting people see your name and might take a look at your work.

Like right now I can't WAIT to dash over there and trash it.


Just kidding. I'm not THAT bad. I'm just written that way.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:13 AM
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Lin isn't mean. He's brutally honest. Which is good for a writer. If you can learn to roll with the punches, and take whatever you can from a review or critique without letting it discourage you, you'll become a better writer for it. I know that the best feedback I've ever gotten was someone simply telling me that less is more.
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Old 05-10-2009, 01:23 PM
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I prefer the term "honestly brutal"
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