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I believe it is wise for her to get "facts" about Jesus from someone who has spent a lifetime studying Him and the Church, not some clown who has an ax to grind with Christianity.

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If a child is drowning, do you believe it matters to the child whether a Christian, Muslim, Jew, or atheist dives into the water to rescue him or her? Furthermore, the person who dives into the water will more than likely be the most unselfish of all. Belief or unbelief will have a minor role in saving the child. Instead, what will save the child is the "character" (or heart of the individual. Therefore, I say to you: remove your bias cap before attempting to provide information about something you vehemently dislike. Your "credibility" is zero. You're excellent at dividing people; that's your forte.
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I don't believe he vehemently dislikes it, Cityboy. It's more that he disagrees with some of their beliefs, the way you disagree with some of his, but with a lot less name-calling.

He seems to have studied the issue, and come across a belief that is his, which gives him far more credibility than someone whose beliefs are borrowed from others, and who expresses them through quotes and articles others have written.

As Einstein probably never said, if you can't explain something simply, using your own words, you don't know your subject.
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Originally Posted by Cityboy View Post
Nacia, this is Jesus views concerning money. I'll give you the name of the person who wrote it at another time -- scholar who has spent years studing The New Testament and Jesus.

Jesus on Money
Jesus was not opposed to the private owner of property nor to the normal process of making a living. He was opposed to a manís loyalty, devotion, and energy being devoted to and captivated by money, property, or wealth. To Jesus, there must be no pursuit as important as the pursuit of Godís will. Every activity of Life is to be subordinate to this. Fame, sex, making money, even the pursuit of art, culture, and wisdom, must not detract the person from his main goal of life. "You cannot serve God and mammon," Jesus said. Mammon is simply the Aramic word for property.

Jesus saw danger in the pursuit of money not only because what it might do to the individual, but what it might do to his relations with other men. How often do men gain money at the expense of others? Some desire money so strongly that they will sell anything, including themselves, for it. This lust for money Jesus condemned.
He said, "Do not be anxious about tomorrow." Trust in our heavenly Father for every need should eliminate the anxiety we have about money. Work is necessary for our daily bread, but anxietyónever.

This requires faith deeper than most of us have, but Jesus invites us to follow him, to seek the kingdom first and "all these things shall be added to you."
 
I mean yeah money is what it is and I think to introduce religion to it is going to make it a bit difficult because it all ends up doing is making people feel guilty which encourages dishonesty.

Humans are weak beings a bit like Adam and Eve. Guilt is assigned as a punishment if you are religious and wants to live your life at the same time.


also I have a question:
if money was that bad how priests in churches going around collecting money from church goers. isn't that double standard?
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Because he's mixed-up, he spews the wrong stuff. He could believe whatever he wants, but he should ditch all that divisive garbage clogging his head.

He has no credibility lecturing people about Christians when he has an agenda to fill; he's a "put-down" artist. That isn't to say he can't change.

Enough here. None of my business. Just a heads up for others to avoid his trap.
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if money was that bad how priests in churches going around collecting money from church goers. isn't that double standard?
Everything costs money. There isn't anything wrong in accepting donations as long as you don't squeeze anyone. I mean, common sense dictates if a person is broke, you don't ask for anything. Just pass the plate under the noses of people who could afford to give.

Money isn't bad. It is the way many go about to acquire it -- many people will trample their own mother for it. And it shouldn't be more valuable than any human life. It is a necessity but not a god.

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Calling him a clown and a fool are compliments compared with some of the names you called me.

What you believe is irrelevant. Since he has been posting in this forum, he has displayed "anti-Christian" and "anti-God" tendencies. Sometimes, disgusting comments too.

Furthermore, having people like him offer information about Christians or Christianity is no different from having a fox guard chickens -- dangerous.

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Originally Posted by Cityboy View Post
Calling him a clown and a fool are compliments compared with some of the names you called me.

What you believe is irrelevant. Since he has been posting in this forum, he has displayed "anti-Christian" and "anti-God" tendencies. Sometimes, disgusting comments too.

Furthermore, having people like him offer information about Christians or Christianity is no different from having a fox guard chickens -- dangerous.


You are a funny man. Actually, at your level, Iím surprised you post things on the internet at all. You should thank whatever genealogy gifted you the spunk to get out there and contribute, because at your level of intelligence not many people are. Not on forums anyway. Yeah, they tweet and Facebook, but longer posts on forums in the ďITĒ not so much.

I still suspect you are JUST trolling. Iím not sure what for here... thereís not much to gain (except maybe the closing of this site).
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Originally Posted by Cityboy View Post
Because he's mixed-up, he spews the wrong stuff. He could believe whatever he wants, but he should ditch all that divisive garbage clogging his head.

He has no credibility lecturing people about Christians when he has an agenda to fill; he's a "put-down" artist. That isn't to say he can't change.

Enough here. None of my business. Just a heads up for others to avoid his trap.


I have no agenda at all. I have lots of friends who are Christians whom I would trust with my childrenís lives. Seriously. My wife is a Catholic, and a devout one. We agree to disagree on some matters of theology, but we have worked out a mutually beneficial relationship for 25 years (including 3 children).

Iím not a put-down artist, and I donít seek to be divisive. I have studied the Bible and other spiritual teachings for decades because itís what Iím interested in. Iím also interested in human psychology, mythology, symbolism, and economics as it relates to human productivity and advancement. I have no big solutions because Iím probably not smart enough or conscientious enough to produce those.

So... I wank-out a few theories here on the WB, and call bullshit when I see it.

Simple as that.
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