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Old 07-12-2013, 11:24 PM
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Been busy working my way thru his series lately. I came across an article a short while back where he was called the American Tolkien. While I like his stuff for the most part, I felt it was something of a stretch to equate him with Tolkien. Sure, he's done the world-building and all, but I don't know if that alone would qualify him as being in that same "league". For me, Tolkien paints a picture with his words and I don't get a lot of visual imagery going on in my head while reading Martin. Martin can tell a good story, not arguing that, but Tolkien is more subtle in his craft, if that makes any sense, whereas Martin seems to me to be more of a blunt-instrument type of writer.

Is the comparison accurate or is more like apples and oranges?

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Well he has that R.R. thing going for him, given enough whiskey a person could confuse one for the other...
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Well he has that R.R. thing going for him, given enough whiskey a person could confuse one for the other...
That's funny! I was thinking something along those lines the other day, wondering if it was a conscious decision on his part to use his initials so that prospective readers might make some sort of connection between.
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That's funny! I was thinking something along those lines the other day, wondering if it was a conscious decision on his part to use his initials so that prospective readers might make some sort of connection between.
What I am more concerned about is George is not a young fella and looks to be in the high risk category for many diseases of affluence, yet, from what I understand, The Game of Thrones series is not complete... imagine a reader investing all that energy in reading the series and then George not being around to see the completion... maybe there is some kind of contingency plan out there for this (nb. my research on George and his series was limited to the introductory paragraph of a Wikipedia article)...
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He does take a while to finish his next book so I guess that is a possibility, given he isn't a exactly a spring chicken anymore. I imagine if he has the whole thing drafted/plotted out somewhere another person could use the notes to complete the series.
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He does take a while to finish his next book so I guess that is a possibility, given he isn't a exactly a spring chicken anymore. I imagine if he has the whole thing drafted/plotted out somewhere another person could use the notes to complete the series.
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I heard he told the TV show writers the ending.

And in response to the original topic - no. Not even close.
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Interesting. I've been watching the show and I like it but often times wish they'd leave out half the sex scenes and show something else that was actually in the story.
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But the sex accounts for 45% of its popularity.
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But the sex accounts for 45% of its popularity.
I imagine you're right there. Sad that the producers think viewers won't watch something unless there are tits and ass every 5 minutes.
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Is that show on BBC... if so, what time and channel does it come on?
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It's on HBO--an American cable movie channel. You can earlier seasons of the series on DVD now as well.
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Originally Posted by donnaf View Post
I imagine you're right there. Sad that the producers think viewers won't watch something unless there are tits and ass every 5 minutes.
Of course, to be fair, they actually have cut back the amount of sex and nudity in the show from what "Kill 'Em All" Martin put in the books.
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I didn't recognize the power of Tolkien, until I decided to listen to the audiobook instead of reread the series.
The songs set the magic of the story.

R.R. to me is exposed a hack when judged side by side with Tolkien. Thrones has interesting characters, but all good writers can do that.

Great writers have inherent power in their works. Like Stephen King said, you either got it or you don't.
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