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Old 07-09-2014, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacia View Post
Ok
if you like perfection
why do you defend strip clubs?
I'm not defending strip clubs.

The O.P. described an idyllic southern town. That I suggested there should be a strip club is an example of irony.

Here's a definition of irony for both you and ericjohn:

Irony: A state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.


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Originally Posted by Nacia View Post
I agree about giving the wrong idea to any person.
what are the want ads??
Want ads are advertisements in the classified section of the newspaper. Sometimes they appear on social media. Usually they are to sell something or give it away. Some people put their information there in order to find a sexual partner.

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what is Noah's hometown?
Seabrook Island, South Carolina...
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Originally Posted by rockman View Post
peaceful islam is not a threat to freedom. i disagree with the thread-starter on this point.
Agree to disagree, then...
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rockman View Post
not that this has much to do with the o.p., but . . .why?
It is when they want the law of the land to be sharia law...Something like the catholic church wanting to make birth control and contraceptives illegal.
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:45 PM
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But you don't want a mosque? Muslims can live in your town, but they can't have their own place of worship? Hmm.
If it is in the southern, bible belt area I doubt there would be a mosque to begin with. The locals wouldn't stand for it.



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I don't. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I don't do it that often and I haven't in a while. Anyways, there is no shame since there is no victim nor anyone being used. It's all fantasy. If I wanted to; I could write it, but I refuse to do so. That is a whole other story. You admitted to going to a strip club, just not that often. Strippers are victims whether you or they realize it or not...
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:49 PM
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It is when they want the law of the land to be sharia law...Something like the catholic church wanting to make birth control and contraceptives illegal.
well, that might explain at least part of our disagreement. to clarify my opinion: muslims aggressively pushing to make sharia the law of the land, by force if necessary, would not, in my opinion, fit the description of practicing peaceful islam (as you put it), but would fall under the extremist variety. nor would these more extreme so-called "muslims" be practicing true islam. nor would they constitute anything close to a majority of muslims. hence my disagreement with your statement.

agree to disagree is fine with me.

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Old 07-09-2014, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rockman View Post
well, that might explain at least part of our disagreement. to clarify my opinion: muslims aggressively pushing to make sharia the law of the land, by force if necessary, would not, in my opinion, fit the description of practicing peaceful islam (as you put it), but would fall under the extremist variety. nor would these more extreme muslims be practicing true islam. nor would they constitute anything close to a majority of muslims. hence my disagreement with your statement.

agree to disagree is fine with me.
Yes I will toast to that but I don't drink alcohol (only for health reasons.)

If the peaceful muslims are exposed to enough radical propaganda and believe, then there becomes a threat. It is possible and probable. Leave it at that...
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This was a peaceful thread until Joe started the controversy (as usual.) Shaking my head.

He does this foolishness in plenty of my threads.

I don't exactly know why...
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if peaceful anyone is exposed to enough radical propaganda and believe, then it's a problem. then these folks are no longer "peaceful." and they're no longer the majority either.
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Originally Posted by rockman View Post
if peaceful anyone is exposed to enough radical propaganda and believe, then it's a problem.
I was about to say that myself and I even considered placing that in the previous post.
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:06 PM
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If it is in the southern, bible belt area I doubt there would be a mosque to begin with. The locals wouldn't stand for it.
Probably not. Probably because they're misinformed. I grew up in the south and have relatives and loved ones in small towns. I spent many summers in towns not too different than what you're describing. The truth is, they can be insular and distrusting of outsiders for no good reason other than fear and ignorance.

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I don't do it that often and I haven't in a while. Anyways, there is no shame since there is no victim nor anyone being used. It's all fantasy. If I wanted to; I could write it, but I refuse to do so. That is a whole other story. You admitted to going to a strip club, just not that often. Strippers are victims whether you or they realize it or not...
I'm giving you a hard time. I have no problem with erotica.

Also, I don't really go to strip clubs. Again, this is an example of irony. Please see the definition I posted.

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Old 07-09-2014, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ericjohn View Post
This was a peaceful thread until Joe started the controversy (as usual.) Shaking my head.

He does this foolishness in plenty of my threads.

I don't exactly know why...
I questioned why in your ideal town you only wanted a protestant or an evangelical church. It's a legitimate question. It's not my fault that it led to line of conversation that doesn't suit you.

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Old 07-09-2014, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacia View Post
Ok
if you like perfection
why do you defend strip clubs?
Because they're a great place to watch tits.
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMatt View Post
I questioned why in your ideal town you only wanted a protestant or an evangelical church. It's a legitimate question. It's not my fault that it led to line of conversation that doesn't suit you.
Be honest with yourself: Was it a loaded question?
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ericjohn View Post
Be honest with yourself: Was it a loaded question?
Loaded in what way -- that I might expect a straightforward answer?

I think I got one. You said everyone was welcome -- but it turns out that means everyone but Muslims.

Or are there other people you'd like to exclude?

In my fictional southern town, in all likelihood, there would be a protestant church on main street. That's a reflection of reality. And it would be accurate and plausible if that's what you want to depict in your story. If that's the case, just say so.

If you've fabricated a town based on your prejudices or on something that could only exist in your fantasies -- then sorry, that's not going to be a very good basis for any fiction that might have a ring of truth to it.

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Old 07-09-2014, 05:37 PM
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Oh, come on, ericjohn! It is a legitimate question! Why those two and no others? Must you see a reason to be wounded in everything?

Is that the only reason anyone posts around here anymore, to have people go, "Oh yes, quite right, I understand exactly what you're saying, I feel the same way too?

Jesus Christ, this ain't La-La land. Or is it?
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Originally Posted by JoeMatt I dream of a town where everyone carries a weapon and there are no Muslims. Sounds like heaven.



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No it doesn't sound like Heaven because in Heaven there is no need for weapons...
I'm like the sword of Gabriel, only in 44 caliber....I have no qualms with an armed paradise
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Holy shit, am I tired of people yammering about their sacred guns. For God's sake, give it a rest.

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My little bit of paradise is armed; don't come sneaking 'round.
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I questioned why in your ideal town you only wanted a protestant or an evangelical church. It's a legitimate question. It's not my fault that it led to line of conversation that doesn't suit you.
It could be as simple as the fact that a remote rural town in many areas of the south would have had just a Baptist, Methodist, or some offshoot. If you went through small towns/ villages in the Appalachians you would be hard pressed to find a Catholic church unless it was in a mining region. It's that way in my part of the nation, too. Small villages that have one or two churches rarely have a catholic church.

Leaving a Catholic church out of an imagined small town might not be intentional.
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Why, what a well thought out, reasoned answer, Mohican!

Maybe ericjohn could take that as a lesson in how to maintain a civil discussion instead of crying like a baby every time someone asks a question.
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It could be as simple as the fact that a remote rural town in many areas of the south would have had just a Baptist, Methodist, or some offshoot. If you went through small towns/ villages in the Appalachians you would be hard pressed to find a Catholic church unless it was in a mining region. It's that way in my part of the nation, too. Small villages that have one or two churches rarely have a catholic church.

Leaving a Catholic church out of an imagined small town might not be intentional.
Yeah -- I already said as much:

In my fictional southern town, in all likelihood, there would be a protestant church on main street. That's a reflection of reality. And it would be accurate and plausible if that's what you want to depict in your story. If that's the case, just say so.
See?

I said I grew up in the south -- spent many of my summers in small southern towns like ericjohn is describing, so I know a little something about it.

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Originally Posted by JustcallmeEd View Post
Why, what a well thought out, reasoned answer, Mohican!

Maybe ericjohn could take that as a lesson in how to maintain a civil discussion instead of crying like a baby every time someone asks a question.
Gosh darn, Ed, you're a very even-handed kind of chap, a credit to the café.
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Aw, Ed is just a dick. Oops. A d**k.
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Well, as an author specialising in gay BDSM erotic romance, my ideal fictional town would be...

Diverse.

With creating fictional towns, I don't really care what people practice in private, be it the bible (etc), safe, sane, consesual guideines to BDSM, or latest updates to tax deductions for gay or straight couples.

But I like diversity, well, except for guns. But then I'm English and from a small town myself where the only guns I come across are the replica sort sold at Bank Holiday markets. I reserve the right for residents to keep baseball bats handy, though.
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Ever since my long-ago years in the military, where there was no privacy, I have wondered why some people feel compelled to declare their sexual makeup. I guess that's because I didn't give a damn, unless I was attracted to someone and something didn't jibe. I still don't understand why being different--aren't we all--has to be a cause celebre. After all, you can't take credit for being born white or black or gay or even just a pleasant person, though we can all work at learning and achieving our goals or just being happy. I tended to very much like the guy who could be depended on to do his job of helping keep us all alive. Oh, almost forgot. I am always armed except in places where it's illegal. Have had a concealed-carry permit for over thirty years and never had to use it. Still, I know the reality of our world, and I will protect my own. Such a paradox that some are trusted with nuclear weapons but denied permission to own small arms. Not trying to start controversy; just my lack of understanding the logic of modern society.
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Gosh darn, Ed, you're a very even-handed kind of chap, a credit to the café.
Is that where we're at? A cafe? Must be a booth, 'cause it sure as (censored) ain't no (censored censored) table.

To keep it on-topic, that's what they have in little Southern towns, isn't it? Cafe's with booths?

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I'm like the sword of Gabriel, only in 44 caliber....I have no qualms with an armed paradise
yeah Gabriel he is a mystery to me to carry a sword which is condemning and yet he:
that I quote:
''his primary role has been called one of announcing the salvation of mankind''
then also I quote:
''He will also announce the Second Coming of the Lord by blowing a trumpet'' ?
he is contradictive and a very busy buddy.
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Ever since my long-ago years in the military, where there was no privacy, I have wondered why some people feel compelled to declare their sexual makeup. I guess that's because I didn't give a damn, unless I was attracted to someone and something didn't jibe. I still don't understand why being different--aren't we all--has to be a cause celebre. .
In a fictional writing sense, you have to declare GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bi Trans) for content tag purposes (or the sufer publiishing wrath). But that's no different to knowing you have to give your writing a fantasy tag if you write fantasy. You have to know your genre to market it.
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Holy shit, am I tired of people yammering about their sacred guns. For God's sake, give it a rest.
Be thankful you get to choose if you can have one. Their not allowed here unless you like hunting defenceless animals.
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